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Old Jul 23, 2006, 10:52 PM // 22:52   #1
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....an empty skillbar and 7 henchmen?
I know all Tyria missions can be done this way with bonuses.
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Old Jul 23, 2006, 10:56 PM // 22:56   #2
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So far the only ones I've been able to get masters with henchies is the very first two (noob isle), Arborstone and Seabed. The rest I have not been able to with henchies.
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Old Jul 23, 2006, 11:02 PM // 23:02   #3
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Unwaking Waters mission should also easily be done with masters reward.
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Old Jul 23, 2006, 11:04 PM // 23:04   #4
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Did all missions with henchies.

With empty skill bar....

I see Unwaking Waters and Arborstone with empty skill bar for now

But I rather say it depend with which profession you choose those who survive the must.... or the less.
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Old Jul 23, 2006, 11:14 PM // 23:14   #5
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I agree with Francis--it depends on what profession you play.
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Old Jul 23, 2006, 11:23 PM // 23:23   #6
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....an empty skillbar and 7 henchmen?
I know all Tyria missions can be done this way with bonuses.
I'd be impressed if you did Raisu Palace that way. It's the only mission I've not been able to hench.
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Old Jul 23, 2006, 11:37 PM // 23:37   #7
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I henched Raisu with my mesmer. I only got the standard reward, but it's definitely henchable. The only missions I haven't henched are Vizunah Square (never attempted to hench it) and the last mission. Also Gyala Hatchery--none of my characters have even attempted that one yet. I've had an easier time henching it with some professions than others, though. Some characters grouped for missions I henched with others.
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Old Jul 23, 2006, 11:41 PM // 23:41   #8
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Imperial Sanctum - doable on mesmer, at least (WW ftw - see GuildWiki for which hench you take)
Unwaking Waters - surprisingly easy with 15 hench
Arborstone - somewhat depends on your luck in the end, but generally henchable
Boreas - bring interrupts.
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Old Jul 24, 2006, 12:34 AM // 00:34   #9
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Boreas seabed is easy when you Bring Panaku.... Yes, you read it. Panaku. Its the interrupter hench for this mission and Degen at the same time.
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Old Jul 24, 2006, 12:55 AM // 00:55   #10
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Boreas is a piece of cake. Tanhnakai is pretty easy too. Unwaking was easy. I had 15 hench that time Xp.
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Old Jul 24, 2006, 12:02 PM // 12:02   #11
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I henched Raisu with my mesmer. I only got the standard reward, but it's definitely henchable. The only missions I haven't henched are Vizunah Square (never attempted to hench it) and the last mission. Also Gyala Hatchery--none of my characters have even attempted that one yet.
Well, I'm impressed. If you can hench Raisu Palace you'll have no problem at all with Vizunah and not much with Gyala either, they're both considerably easier (especially Vizunah).

Unwaking & Boreas are also quite easy, certainly easier than Raisu.
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Old Jul 24, 2006, 02:14 PM // 14:14   #12
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Why are you guys going with an empty skill bar? Is it for the challenge? Aren't there better things in game if you want a challenge, like elite missions, etc.?
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Old Jul 24, 2006, 02:19 PM // 14:19   #13
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Why are you guys going with an empty skill bar? Is it for the challenge? Aren't there better things in game if you want a challenge, like elite missions, etc.?
Or soloing the mission without henchmen?
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Old Jul 24, 2006, 03:42 PM // 15:42   #14
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Just e-penis enlargement, probably.
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Old Jul 24, 2006, 03:50 PM // 15:50   #15
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Why are you guys going with an empty skill bar? Is it for the challenge? Aren't there better things in game if you want a challenge, like elite missions, etc.?
You kidding me? Controlling henchman through canthan missions, with an empty skill bar is more masterful than formula farming (elite is no longer the correct word for either capital missions) greens.
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Old Jul 24, 2006, 04:25 PM // 16:25   #16
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You kidding me? Controlling henchman through canthan missions, with an empty skill bar is more masterful than formula farming (elite is no longer the correct word for either capital missions) greens.
LoL, what I meant was that I don't think it's worth the time (or effort) to make something harder than it has to be just to find a challenge. I'd rather find something else to do, in-game or in real-life, that's more meaningful and presents a decent challenge. Maybe people are just bored
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Old Jul 24, 2006, 06:08 PM // 18:08   #17
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Gayla Hatchery would be quite a feat with henchmen and no skills, especially if they fixed the gwiki listed "exploit" where the turtles don't start moving.
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Old Jul 24, 2006, 06:56 PM // 18:56   #18
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the original post stated MASTERS with henches and empty skill bar. i dont see any one posting any masters. or unless i am mistaken and he only means which mission can be done with henches, and not the masters reward.
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Old Jul 24, 2006, 08:00 PM // 20:00   #19
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Well, FWIW I got masters on Gyala and Vizunah with all-hench team. I didn't have empty skillbar, though. I wasn't actualy trying to get Masters either, just get through.

The Gyala exploit isn't fixed (although it was claimed in update notes that it was!), but I didn't use it; I simply didn't know about it then.

As for why... It's a fun challenge, and the only things I've come across which I simply couldn't hench are Raisu Palace in Cantha, and Defiled Tombs in Tyria (although I know at least one who's done Defiled Tombs with henches). Right now I'm working on getting all bonuses with all-hench teams in Tyria.

And of course I do everything with the fewest possible number of henches, and of course I don't run, but fight my way through.
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Old Jul 24, 2006, 08:15 PM // 20:15   #20
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Well, FWIW I got masters on Gyala and Vizunah with all-hench team. I didn't have empty skillbar, though. I wasn't actualy trying to get Masters either, just get through.
Same here. I've never gone on an empty skill bar--never even thought of it. I was just saying what missions I've henched, as in let's start with what missions are even henchable and then talk about masters and empty skillbars (eek!).

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Right now I'm working on getting all bonuses with all-hench teams in Tyria.
The only bonus I think would be difficult to hench is the Dunes of Despair one. I haven't henched all of them, but I've done all of them and I think the others are henchable. But Dunes of Despair could be tough.
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